8 Reasons why being in a band is like being in a Long Term Relationship

Being in band can be intense at times. It's been one of those months, and sometimes I've wondered if life would be easier if we just cut out the middle man and married each other. Yes, it would mean a trip to Utah to legalise a five-way-wedding, but Utah is right next to Vegas - which would make for one hell of a honeymoon! Here's my list of 8 reasons why being in a band can sometimes feel like you're in a long term relationship - with four other people.



1. Borrowing each other's stuff without asking.


If I had a dollar for every time I'd gone in my case to find my tuner, lead, 9 volt, spare string, whatever..... only to find it missing or not how I left it, I would be very rich indeed. But, I give as good as I get and at present, only 75% of the strings on my guitar were paid for with my money. So, that one balances itself out!





2. Knowing where each other is, every day of the week!

Keeping track of each other has it's merits; it's hard to book a gig if you don't know if everyone's available and that expensive rehearsal room won't be free just because you left it to sit empty for a week. Having to put in for your three day trip to visit your family home six months in advance is pushing though - so watch out for control freaks!


3. You have "mutual friends".

If your band gigs regularly, chances are you'll meet each others friends. Meet them often enough and they'll become yours too. I recently went through my Facebook friends list to send out invites to a gig, and discovered to my horror that I knew less than twenty people in my area who weren't mutual friends of "Insert Band Name Here".



Those twenty event invites went a long way to getting the numbers up at our gig - NOT!!!

4. Arguments about money.

The music industry is an industry and it requires an input of cash from somewhere. Whenever it requires a cash injection from you; be it expensive studio fees, band merchandising costs, or top quality CD pressings, try not to argue about it! Like a relationship, it only slows things down and wastes energy.

Unlike a relationship, the making up afterwards is nowhere near as good!

5. Spending way too much time together.

When a group of creative types work well together, it can be hard to switch off and tune out for a while. In my current situation, musical matters get discussed nearly everyday. There's trips to the pub to check out other bands, weekly rehearsals, gigs at least once a week, piling into each others living rooms for an emergency song writing session......a night off just doesn't seem to exist. But if your band are buddies, being in constant demand can be one of the best things! Just watch out if your significant other asks you flat out if you're still in a relationship and feels the needs to add "with just the two of us?"

6.  Meeting the family.

When your band gets to the level where it needs the kind of time commitment a full-time job would, it's only natural your paths will cross with each other's families. This is also a big plus in my book; especially if you're a mixed gender band. Some of my band buddies Mrs's are my best friends and all those late nights and absent weekends won't raise any suspicious eyebrows if partners are kept in the mix.

7. Moving in together - sort of.

If things start to hot up with your musical act, it's only a matter of time until you have to expand your horizons and play gigs outside of your home town. When this happens, you may find yourself sharing a car, a hotel room, or even a tour bus with them. It's these times in the lifespan of a band when you discover just how small a drummers bladder can really be, and wonder whether or not you should just stick your finger up there yourself to see how inflamed that prostate is really getting.








8. Celebrating significant life events together. 

Just like that scene from Guns N' Roses "November Rain", you may find yourself tearing up at the sight of one of your bandies getting married. This has happened to me twice and has been the only two moments in my life when it's been remotely acceptable for me to compare myself to Slash.

For better or worse, for richer or poorer, being in a band is one of life's most awesome adventures and I wouldn't change it for the world!

When Did This Become OK?; Just Shut Up and Take My Money!

Ok, so when did behaviour like this become ok?

On Facebook, I'm clearly marked out as a musician, somebody musical, someone who's worked in and has experience of the music industry, etc., you get the picture. Today I received the following post on my page:

(Identity obscured to protect the poster)

In case you can't see above, it says "I gotta studio I go to every weekend but I need my own equitment so if you would like to help me with the funds inbox me".

Apart from the obvious terrible spelling and grammar, which I'm trying not to judge the person for, what I am judging them for is the terrible motive behind this post! As you can see above, they've tagged myself and 48 other people in this post, then went straight ahead lazily asking for money with a very vague explanation as to why! No please, no thank you, simply putting their hand out for some of my hard earned money.

As my more regular readers may have noticed, I posted about crowd funding initiatives and my conflicting feelings towards these sites a little while ago. Is this the evolution of crowd funding? I can't be bothered to work so I'll just post on a few Facebook pages and keep my fingers crossed?

What on earth is going on???? 

My big question is this. Has this actually worked for this person? Has anyone been generous/stupid enough to inbox this person saying "Hey, I have no idea what you want this for but here's a hundred bucks! Just shut up and take my money!"

In what world is this how we make, market and love each others music? 

Should I Sign Up to Instagram? A place to connect or a social reject?

I've been thinking about this for a while now; should I sign up to Instagram? This sounds like a stupid thing to deliberate over so I'll explain why I'm so torn.

At a glance, Instagram looks amazing for promoting yourself. All the musicians I follow are constantly uploading photos; guitar pics, studio shots, fan photos......you get the drift. I really love the updates and finding out what's going on in the real lives of some of my idols. But real lives is pushing it slightly.....

I recently did a fill in job for a band who's singer is pretty active on Instagram. To be fair, I was blown away by her dedication to the site. There were a few updates everyday; her morning yoga session, what she ate for lunch and then a picture of her playing an acoustic guitar with the tags #singersongwriter #guitarsession #rockstar #newtunescoming. I did not know this girl very well as I'd never played with her band before and came across her Instagram account while doing my usual pre-new-band research (aka stalking). From looking at her account, I learned that she has two acoustic guitars which she plays almost everyday, she appears to be a very clean eater and works out a lot. By now, she sounds like something from a wet dream.


Well.....Instagram screwed me. Off I went to my jam session with the new band and eager to be friendly and get on good terms with this girl, I began trying to chat guitar with her. One awkward, bumbling conversation later, I had to confess I'd been Instagram stalking her and had seen her guitar pictures, to which all of the guys in the band laughed hysterically. It felt pretty embarrassing.

She quickly set me straight that the photos that had been uploaded were staged! She explained that she could not play the guitar and that the two that appeared in her daily photos were on loan from the band's guitarist, as they were spares in need of repair work.

"I'm still trying to make up my mind if the rationale behind this is stupid or sheer brilliance" - one p*ssed off Instagram Voyeur 

 







I'm still trying to make up my mind if the rationale behind this is stupid or sheer brilliance. The band have all agreed to lie and say that their beautiful, blonde haired, blue eyed, big breasted, 20-something-year-old singer writes all the band's songs on her acoustic guitar to attract more attention to their music. She poses with the guitar in various states of undress, and regularly takes provocative shots, in order to draw men into her profile. Once she's got them, she begins hitting them with stuff about the band.

I was a little uncomfortable with this and I can't even give you a good reason why. You've only got to look at Rhianna and Miley Cyrus to see that using women as sex objects is a tried and tested currency. It just shocked me a little to see a woman going this far to do it to herself.

I was curious about how much effort she put into her Instagram and she seemed only too happy to chat about it. She taught me that it's important to have really regular updates on there, once a day will not get you anywhere. If you haven't got time to do full hair and make up, do a body shot - a guitar is a crotch level instrument and you can use this to your advantage. Don't be afraid to go over the top with the hash tags either; the more you use, the greater the chance of your photo coming up in a search somewhere. There's also a lot of "freaks" out there, so don't be afraid to hook them in - pictures of your feet with the hashtag #footfetish won't hurt you in the popularity contest.

My mind was spinning. There was no thought involved when I signed up to Facebook. All my friends were on there and it seemed like a harmless evolution of MySpace so I just signed up an starting posting.

However, this was not a pop band I was working with; these guys were a rock band and all quite credible musicians. If I felt sad for the singer, I felt ten times worse for the boys in the band. What happens when you don't have nudity and sexually suggestive photos to use as a bargaining chip? If we're honest here, photos of naked men are nowhere near as appealing to the opposite sex as photos of naked women (I'm willing to accept there are a few exceptions to this!) The boys in the band all seemed happy enough to stand behind their hot lead and let her be the face of the group, taking the credit for the collective's hard work. I wondered how far this marketing strategy would take them before cracks started to appear.

In all honesty, Instagram sounds like a lot of work. I'm still in two minds if it's a worth while investment of my time to set up an account and spend a few five minute sessions a day photographing aspects of my musical activities to try and hook in strangers. It just all sounds a little too much like something designed for the beautiful people in life.

My Experience of Crowdfunding and Why I Would Recommend You Stay Clear of It; 90% of cases should probably avoid, the other 10% go right ahead, you'll do great!

Today I had a quiet day at work spending nearly the whole day at my desk. I had my headphones on and Nirvana's Heart Shaped Box came up on my playlist. I haven't heard that song for years and it made me incredibly nostalgic; I remembered how excited I was when I bought my first Nirvana album. I wasn't even a teenager yet, it was the first album I ever bought and by that time it was already over ten years old. I think if I remember correctly it cost me £8. I suddenly felt shocked as I realised I'd actually gone to the record store specifically to buy it. Music was only just becoming downloadable at this point and there was that whole thing with Napster going on and.....well you know what I mean. 

Back then we had to wait to buy our music and I feel incredibly old saying that. I used that purchase to start a neat little row of thin plastic boxes that I kept next to my CD player. Not a day goes by when I don't listen to music and I own neither a CD player nor a single CD! I know it's a pretty petty way of arriving at this conclusion, but the world has definitely changed. 

I wondered what it was like for bands back in Nirvana's day. Dave Grohl is still very much on the go and he's carved a life out of this industry. Trying to follow in his footsteps after the internet has made everything public property seems impossible. 

Seeing as I was running down the clock until quitting time today (and it was Friday!) I ended up on youtube and just so happened to be looking when this newly released acoustic cover of Heart Shaped Box popped up. It's by some amateur and it has a few slightly ropey notes in places, but they've completely changed the instrumentation and it's a pretty clever take on a classic. 

This is what brings me to crowdfunding and why I would recommend you stay clear of it unless you're 100% certain you're going to succeed. Under no circumstances should you take a "Suck it and See" attitude towards this type of thing and I'll explain why. 

Some time ago, my band were desperate to release a five track EP. Every gig we'd play we were asked at least a handful of times if we had any CD's to sell. We didn't, so always referred people to our iTunes account. By the time they'd gotten home, they'd forgotten who we were, how to spell our name or that they even liked us in the first place. We worked out it would cost us roughly £6,500 to record, mix, master, promote, etc. As fate had it, we were contacted online by a company who were starting a new crowdfunding website and wanted us to be an endorsing act for the brand. They offered us free promotion for our campaign and said we'd be used as a success story when the company launched.

At this point, there was no need to be suspicious. Crowdfunding has been in the public eye since 2007 when Radiohead released their album "Rainbows" using a 'pay what you think it's worth' offer. Over 3 million people paid for the album and it was their biggest commercial success so far. I remember hearing about it and being captivated by the idea that I could buy an abum for a penny (not that I did, that would have been so mean!)

It wasn't an easy decision for us to make. Some of us were hesitant to use what could be interpreted as internet begging to fund our next release, and it wasn't the only option available to us. We were all talented musicians and quick learners and I firmly believed we could set ourselves up as a covers band for a few months and raise the money by playing weddings and other paid opportunities.

"The campaign bombed. Not only did it die a slow and painful death, it tore our reputation to shreds along the way. A failed campaign is not a promising indicator of your ability to sell your music."

We were all itching to get back in the studio and use the EP to take our careers to the next level, so in the end we agreed and set to work. The company advised us on how to set up our profile and asked us to make a video explaining why we needed the money. As with all crowdfunding platforms, we were to offer our 'backers' rewards that would correspond to varying levels of financial commitment. 

This was hard to do. The only thing we could really offer them was a copy of the EP which didn't exist yet or perhaps a gig at a location of their choice for a bigger financial contribution. We copied the blueprint of a band who had previously run a successful campaign; hoping our rewards would appeal and we would draw in more backers. 

The campaign bombed. And not only did it die a slow and painful death, it tore our reputation to shreds along the way. Family members of the band were supportive, chucking in about 500pounds between them. We were lucky enough to receive a minimal amount of small donations from randomers on the internet. After that, all we received was criticism; the constant updates on social media annoyed people and one person even went out of their way to contact us and verbally abuse us after we popped up on his Facebook wall somehow. 

To make things worse, the company running the campaign made us do all the legwork, offered little support and harassed us if the total didn't move each day. They were taking a top slice of any money we received, so it was in their best interest that we kept harassing people and begging for their money. Worse still was that we started receiving reports that people attempting to pay online were being directed to some dodgy looking foreign website that they didn't understand. 

A week before the deadline and the total was looking pitiful. We were again harassed by the company who suggested that the band should put our money into the campaign (allowing them to take their top slice!) as nobody wants to have an unsuccessful crowdfunding campaign on their hands and we would loose the little bit of money already in the pot.

What shocked me even more was that it was actually discussed at band practise as if it was a viable option. One member explained that it was money we'd spend anyway at some point down the line but when someone else chimed in that they refused to pay an external company money for nothing, I breathed a sigh of relief and the whole sorry incident was put to bed.

My advice to you is simple; please don't do this unless you're sure you're going to succeed. Through this process, we p*ssed a lot of people off and what hurt the most was that a failed crowdfunding campaign is a big black mark on a band's history. It shows that there is not enough support for your product to make it commercially viable and people really take note of this. If you can't sell your music outside of your circle of family and friends, you're in real trouble. All crowdfunding really does is highlight this in a really public way. There is no doubt in my mind that record label and industry scouts watch crowdfunding platforms like hawks, trying to smell what's selling and jump on it before someone else does. Bombing out on one of these sites will set you back.

The decision is yours. Please make up your own minds, but please be sensible and think it through!

Why Douche is the Most Appropriate Phonetic in Fiduciary Matters; the world thinks it’s ok to ask artists to work for free…. and occasionally I kind of agree.

I really can’t tell you the name of the company involved in this, but this is pretty shocking. So let’s begin…

Some time ago, my band were invited to play at a corporate event. We’d just finished a run of festival appearances, were getting a small amount of airplay on commercial radio and receiving weekly press enquiries. We were keen to keep the ball rolling, and happy to play as many shows as possible, we accepted.

The event was for a big corporation who have branches all over the country. They were planning on opening a new branch and requested only a 30 minute set – “just a little something to get the customers pumped up”. At this juncture, our store contact pointed out that they couldn’t actually pay us, but in exchange for our time, they would feature the band on the homepage of their website and on the accompanying press release about the store opening. The fatal words “It’ll be great exposure for you guys” were uttered, and with that, the transaction was considered valid.

 A week before the gig, we were informed that a performance area had been set up in the parking lot with a stage and what we were told was a “full band setup, just bring your instruments and your own guitar and bass amps”. We continued to check the company’s website for our not-so-free advertising, but nothing appeared. It’s pretty poor etiquette to announce an event before the host does, so nothing about the gig went out on our social networks either. To make matters worse, nobody from the store would respond to our enquiries about the sound system setup, so we had no idea if the venue would be able to cater for our technical specifications.

48 hours before the gig and we’d had enough. The issue was passed over to band management, who sent a rather curt email requesting the corporation hold up their end of the deal or we’d be forced to pull the plug. Problem was – there wasn’t even a plug to pull!

The response was astounding. It was put to us that as the band, we were expected to provide our own sound system and should have sorted this by now. If we were unable to provide this at this late stage, perhaps only our singer and guitarist should perform. When we tried to explain that this wasn’t possible, our booking contact just didn’t understand that a microphone actually needs to be plugged into something to get sound out of it. Shouting her way through our songs over the noise of a busy store would not be an option and we just didn’t have a street-busker style setup we could use.

So, as we were:

• 1.       Unwilling/unable to shell out a few hundred bucks for PA system hire.
• 2.       Unwilling/unable to shell out a few hundred bucks for a van to transport the PA system.
• 3.       Unwilling/unable to spend hours setting up and dismantling a PA system for a 30 minute            gig.
• 4.       Not given our advertising; no sign of any press release with our logo, images, web links on        it, no offer of reimbursement for the expense this would incur.
• 5.       Getting nothing 

We had to pull out.

It was shocking to us that a big corporation like this couldn’t flick us a few hundred bucks for our time, or even sort out the necessary setup we’d need to play some music in their store. What made it even worse was that they were a specialist audio visual entertainment company! Shocking or what?

It’s pretty frustrating that 90% of the world seems to think it’s ok to ask artists to work for free. All those years spent learning your craft and coming up with something fresh and original are suddenly worthless and at times it seems implied that anybody pulled in off the street could do it too – so just get on with it and consider yourself lucky it’s you up there.  But sometimes, I occasionally see where they have a point.

The biggest show I ever played, I played for free.

Actually, at a rough estimate, I played this show for -$800 and it was worth every cent it cost me to get organised for it. A long hot summer some time ago, the group I was with were offered to play on one of the side stages of a pretty significant music festival. Somehow, the stars aligned and we managed to land this gig alongside some big name acts. As a relatively unheard of band, we were told straight up we wouldn’t be paid for this show as we needed it more than they needed us. It would have been just as easy for the festival organisers to have had that side stage sitting empty for the 45 minute slot we were offered and they would have lost no income from taking that option. Instead, they offered us a chance and we had no other choice than to jump on that thing like Van Halen instructed.

When I look back on this, if you care enough about something, have thrown thousands of dollars into it over the years, gotten yourself into and out of debt over it multiple times – what’s another $800 to pay for your lucky break? 

Storm in a Soup Bowl; An Interview with Lonely Soup Day

A few weeks ago I decided to work from home for the day. If that first sentence made you imagine a day on the sofa in fat pants with a laptop roughly within reaching distance, you’re right. And if I'm being really honest, Facebook got rinsed that day. Some of my friends are in a different time zone, so we spent the afternoon chatting about a new music video that popped up online. To be fair, we were discussing it for all the wrong reasons.

October 10^th marked the release of the debut single from Lonely Soup Day; a Western Australian based pop-folk fusion duo. The song was accompanied by a music video shot in the USA and based on a pretty far out concept.  Sadly, it was brought to my attention for the online-trashing it received. Rarely have I seen such a strong adverse reaction to a new release from a newly emerging independent artist. With only one hundred and forty one likes on Facebook and no gigs under their belt, it seemed that Lonely Soup Day had grabbed the spotlight and channelled the wrath of the entire internet for the day.

I was horrified and a bit put out by the reaction. Being brutally truthful, the video was not to my personal tastes and I didn't understand it, but I thought the song had real potential. There were a few things I wasn't keen on in the mixing side of the track, but the essence of the song grabbed me and the melody was catchy! I ended up playing it on repeat a few times while I “worked”. 

Luckily for me, Lonely Soup Day agreed to an interview and were open to discussing the online blow up completely candidly. They've got some great words of advice so here’s what went down….

What’s Lonely Soup Day all about in a nutshell?

Chris: I’d love to get a song in the background of Grey’s Anatomy. Or any TV show. But seriously, we’re doing this for the love of it. We get pleasure out of creating the music, and then just send it out into the world and hope it’s found by people who like our sound. Nothing more than that.

Molly: Oh, we want to make it to the big time, definitely! Actually, just releasing a song that my Mum says she likes as much as anything by Melanie Safka would do. Or getting it on the background of Grey’s Anatomy, whichever comes first. 

How did you both get into music?

Chris: I’ve been improvising tunes since I was a kid, on the piano, but it was never really song-writing. I kept playing, but I needed a collaborator. Once I met Molly we became songwriters.

Molly: I have no musical talent myself so, happily, Chris was enthusiastic about me collaborating with him. I have been nagging people since I was about 5 or 6 years old to be in a band with me. I can’t play instruments, I can’t read music so I had no hope of doing it independently. I performed live with my dad’s guitar at a hippy commune when I was about 5 (to rave reviews), wrote my first full length song by the time I was 9 and wrote a duet with my best friend when we were about 10.

What inspired you to write your own original music and go through all the effort of making a music video?

Molly: Everybody loves music. I think, if given the opportunity, anybody would write their own music and put it out there. It’s a lot of work, even when everyone thinks you’re shit, but it’s rewarding…

Chris: I used to work in film, and music videos were my main job for a while, so it seemed obvious we should shoot our own. We’re both Twin Peaks fans, and we thought we could tell a story in the spirit of Twin Peaks that matched the song. I think we failed.

I've been directing professionally for nearly fifteen years, and this turned out to be my last project. I was so disappointed with the end result that I quit directing. I've gone back to being a writer.

You recently unveiled your new music video for your debut track “Line of Sight”. Can you tell us a little bit about how you made it?

Chris: We shot the outdoors scenes North Bend and Snoqualmie (USA) using the original locations from the Twin Peaks pilot and the movie Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me. We also shot indoor scenes in Vancouver, with an extra indoor shoot in Australia in September.

In Vancouver we shot some of the creamed corn footage, and in Australia we shot the indoor scene in the ‘room above a convenience store’. That’s the dark room with the weird goings-on. Some of the actors are professionals from Perth, who are extremely talented, and a few were family. We only had three hours to shoot, which was seven hours faster than it took David Lynch to shoot the same scene, so I'm told.

I found the use of soup in your music video a little confronting. At first glance, I thought it was vomit! Then I remembered the band name and realised it must be soup. Is it soup and does soup have some kind of special significance for you guys?

Chris: That was just for Twin Peaks fans. It’s creamed corn, which has magical properties in the world of the TV show. It was vile stuff, but it looks good on camera.

Molly: Soup… it’s significant in that we live like students and consume a lot of soup and two-minute noodles. I guess we could easily have been called Lonely Noodle Day or Lonely Cheese Toasty Day. The stuff in the video is Garmonbozia: it’s pain and suffering. It’s represented by creamed corn, which caused me pain and suffering. Well, mild discomfort in my mouth and hands. It is confronting, you’re quite right. I squirm every time I watch that moment in the video. But then I laugh, oh, how I laugh.

"It was my face and voice that was representing the band and I could have taken it really personally but music and art are such subjective things. Ultimately, we still came out ahead." 

- Molly

 

The video seemed to cause a lot of controversy after you aired it, in particular it drew some nasty comments on YouTube. Do you have any comment on why this may have happened?

Chris: There were some vile comments on the Welcome To Twin Peaks Facebook page which have now been deleted. I love Twin Peaks, but a cult following can be protective of their cult. If they don’t think your creation fits in with their cult, they reject it. I spoke to a psychiatrist about the level of hatred we’d received, and he said that whenever there is a cult, it offers comfort to the followers, and the last thing they want is an unsettling change. So we upset people and they hated on us. It was a mistake to make that video. If you don’t know Twin Peaks, it’s a confusing mess, and if you do, you hate it for betraying your dream. I saw somebody on a forum the other day saying that the new series of Twin Peaks must not have any new characters in it, or it would destroy the spirit of the show. That’s the mentality we were up against.

In truth, I hope it’s forgotten about, and that we’ll not always be associated with Twin Peaks. We might even get somebody to make a really dull alternative video for Line of Sight, something with cats in it. People love that.

Molly: It got flack because it exists and we put it online and it’s easy to hate on something online. It would have been truly saddening if we’d been trying to sell it as a single twenty years ago and got no sales but we wouldn't have a dozen strangers casually tearing us apart publicly. I don’t really mind, though. It was my face and voice that was representing the band and I could have taken it really personally but music and art are such subjective things. Ultimately, we still came out ahead. Our voice was heard and seen by dozens of people and will exist indefinitely and was used for the edification of our souls and art. Their voice was small, spiteful and thoughtless and limited to our memories and a Facebook page and it’s certainly not as catchy as any music I've ever heard. I don’t want the video to be forgotten about, though. I hope it’s one of those things that gets more appreciation as time goes by, maybe after we’re both dead.

According to the director of Twin Peaks, David Lynch, a major theme of the work is incest and the feelings of the victim. Can you explain how the video is of significance to the song or how the two are related?

Chris: To me the series was about breaking down the barrier between two worlds – it’s an occult parable, if you will. Twin Peaks says that love makes you vulnerable, and that evil has easy access to you when you’re in that state. There’s also a lot about animal desires and wearing masks. We thought that fit in with our song, but we were probably wrong.

In the wake of the negativity, a number of comments showing the reaction to the bashing of your hard work started to pop up online. In particular, it said somewhere that you “thought you had overestimated your talent”. Now that things have settled down a bit, do you still feel this way?

Chris: That statement was made about my film-making. I've been a writer for 25 years and usually receive high praise. My film work has received almost no praise, so I don’t think I'm meant to be a director. I was ready to quit, and the response to this video sealed the deal.  I've no idea whether I'm any good at music, but we’ll see when the album’s finished.

Molly: If people can’t respond to a song they don’t like appropriately, I'm not surprised hate crimes are so ubiquitous. On the other hand, I don’t claim they’re wrong about our song or music video but if they knew I was standing behind them, listening to their conversation they wouldn't talk like that. I know this because I was on the set of a massively unpopular rock band’s music video as an extra and people whispered stuff among themselves but as soon as the band was seen they shut the hell up. Because it’s not polite to talk rubbish within hearing of the subject, right? So why write stuff that you know the subject is going to read. That’s nasty. That makes you a nasty pasty!

"I was on the set of a massively unpopular rock band’s music video as an extra and people whispered stuff among themselves but as soon as the band was seen they shut the hell up."

- Molly 

Can you explain how you feel about your first release after the release date?

Chris: I regret making a music video for the fans of Twin Peaks, because they hated it. I don’t regret releasing the song when we did. Some people like the song. Music will always find its audience, eventually, even if that audience is small. One of the bands I love the most, Lowlife, were never famous, but they have a small following. That would suit me, a following, however small. We may end up with 20 fans or a few more and it really doesn't matter.

Molly: I stand by the music video and the song. I wish more people enjoyed it because that is gratifying but I'm not dependent on other people’s approval for my self-worth. I had fun making it and I still consider our release affectionately.

When creating and releasing your music and videos in the future, will you do anything differently?

Chris: I’ll never direct again and I'm so bored of music videos (having made a bundle) that I don’t really care what they look like any more. In the future, I’ll never read a review of our music, either, or a single Facebook comment, because I don’t think you can learn from reviews. Criticism hurts and praise is misleading. Haters hate as a hobby, and fans often remain quiet. So I’ll never know whether anybody likes what we’re doing unless it sells well.

Molly: Chris warned me that it could get lambasted and I was like, I'm not reading any comments or any reviews and I don’t want you to tell me any that you read. In fact, you shouldn't read them because then you’ll tell me anyway. So he read them and told me them, anyway. Next time I'm going to turn off our internet service. I also wouldn't release it through a fan site for something else.

For more information on Lonely Soup Day, check them out using the links below. 

(And yes, the controversial music video can be found via YouTube! I’d like to hear your thoughts if anyone has any!)

https://www.facebook.com/lonelysoupday

http://www.lonelysoupday.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW9HcIEIM0k