Saturday 1 November 2014

Storm in a Soup Bowl; An Interview with Lonely Soup Day

A few weeks ago I decided to work from home for the day. If that first sentence made you imagine a day on the sofa in fat pants with a laptop roughly within reaching distance, you’re right. And if I'm being really honest, Facebook got rinsed that day. Some of my friends are in a different time zone, so we spent the afternoon chatting about a new music video that popped up online. To be fair, we were discussing it for all the wrong reasons.

October 10th marked the release of the debut single from Lonely Soup Day; a Western Australian based pop-folk fusion duo. The song was accompanied by a music video shot in the USA and based on a pretty far out concept.  Sadly, it was brought to my attention for the online-trashing it received. Rarely have I seen such a strong adverse reaction to a new release from a newly emerging independent artist. With only one hundred and forty one likes on Facebook and no gigs under their belt, it seemed that Lonely Soup Day had grabbed the spotlight and channelled the wrath of the entire internet for the day.

I was horrified and a bit put out by the reaction. Being brutally truthful, the video was not to my personal tastes and I didn't understand it, but I thought the song had real potential. There were a few things I wasn't keen on in the mixing side of the track, but the essence of the song grabbed me and the melody was catchy! I ended up playing it on repeat a few times while I “worked”. 
Luckily for me, Lonely Soup Day agreed to an interview and were open to discussing the online blow up completely candidly. They've got some great words of advice so here’s what went down….


What’s Lonely Soup Day all about in a nutshell?

Chris: I’d love to get a song in the background of Grey’s Anatomy. Or any TV show. But seriously, we’re doing this for the love of it. We get pleasure out of creating the music, and then just send it out into the world and hope it’s found by people who like our sound. Nothing more than that.

Molly: Oh, we want to make it to the big time, definitely! Actually, just releasing a song that my Mum says she likes as much as anything by Melanie Safka would do. Or getting it on the background of Grey’s Anatomy, whichever comes first. 


How did you both get into music?

Chris: I’ve been improvising tunes since I was a kid, on the piano, but it was never really song-writing. I kept playing, but I needed a collaborator. Once I met Molly we became songwriters.

Molly: I have no musical talent myself so, happily, Chris was enthusiastic about me collaborating with him. I have been nagging people since I was about 5 or 6 years old to be in a band with me. I can’t play instruments, I can’t read music so I had no hope of doing it independently. I performed live with my dad’s guitar at a hippy commune when I was about 5 (to rave reviews), wrote my first full length song by the time I was 9 and wrote a duet with my best friend when we were about 10.


What inspired you to write your own original music and go through all the effort of making a music video?

Molly: Everybody loves music. I think, if given the opportunity, anybody would write their own music and put it out there. It’s a lot of work, even when everyone thinks you’re shit, but it’s rewarding…

Chris: I used to work in film, and music videos were my main job for a while, so it seemed obvious we should shoot our own. We’re both Twin Peaks fans, and we thought we could tell a story in the spirit of Twin Peaks that matched the song. I think we failed.
I've been directing professionally for nearly fifteen years, and this turned out to be my last project. I was so disappointed with the end result that I quit directing. I've gone back to being a writer.


You recently unveiled your new music video for your debut track “Line of Sight”. Can you tell us a little bit about how you made it?

Chris: We shot the outdoors scenes North Bend and Snoqualmie (USA) using the original locations from the Twin Peaks pilot and the movie Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me. We also shot indoor scenes in Vancouver, with an extra indoor shoot in Australia in September.

In Vancouver we shot some of the creamed corn footage, and in Australia we shot the indoor scene in the ‘room above a convenience store’. That’s the dark room with the weird goings-on. Some of the actors are professionals from Perth, who are extremely talented, and a few were family. We only had three hours to shoot, which was seven hours faster than it took David Lynch to shoot the same scene, so I'm told.


I found the use of soup in your music video a little confronting. At first glance, I thought it was vomit! Then I remembered the band name and realised it must be soup. Is it soup and does soup have some kind of special significance for you guys?

Chris: That was just for Twin Peaks fans. It’s creamed corn, which has magical properties in the world of the TV show. It was vile stuff, but it looks good on camera.

Molly: Soup… it’s significant in that we live like students and consume a lot of soup and two-minute noodles. I guess we could easily have been called Lonely Noodle Day or Lonely Cheese Toasty Day. The stuff in the video is Garmonbozia: it’s pain and suffering. It’s represented by creamed corn, which caused me pain and suffering. Well, mild discomfort in my mouth and hands. It is confronting, you’re quite right. I squirm every time I watch that moment in the video. But then I laugh, oh, how I laugh.


"It was my face and voice that was representing the band and I could have taken it really personally but music and art are such subjective things. Ultimately, we still came out ahead." 
- Molly
 





The video seemed to cause a lot of controversy after you aired it, in particular it drew some nasty comments on YouTube. Do you have any comment on why this may have happened?

Chris: There were some vile comments on the Welcome To Twin Peaks Facebook page which have now been deleted. I love Twin Peaks, but a cult following can be protective of their cult. If they don’t think your creation fits in with their cult, they reject it. I spoke to a psychiatrist about the level of hatred we’d received, and he said that whenever there is a cult, it offers comfort to the followers, and the last thing they want is an unsettling change. So we upset people and they hated on us. It was a mistake to make that video. If you don’t know Twin Peaks, it’s a confusing mess, and if you do, you hate it for betraying your dream. I saw somebody on a forum the other day saying that the new series of Twin Peaks must not have any new characters in it, or it would destroy the spirit of the show. That’s the mentality we were up against.

In truth, I hope it’s forgotten about, and that we’ll not always be associated with Twin Peaks. We might even get somebody to make a really dull alternative video for Line of Sight, something with cats in it. People love that.

Molly: It got flack because it exists and we put it online and it’s easy to hate on something online. It would have been truly saddening if we’d been trying to sell it as a single twenty years ago and got no sales but we wouldn't have a dozen strangers casually tearing us apart publicly. I don’t really mind, though. It was my face and voice that was representing the band and I could have taken it really personally but music and art are such subjective things. Ultimately, we still came out ahead. Our voice was heard and seen by dozens of people and will exist indefinitely and was used for the edification of our souls and art. Their voice was small, spiteful and thoughtless and limited to our memories and a Facebook page and it’s certainly not as catchy as any music I've ever heard. I don’t want the video to be forgotten about, though. I hope it’s one of those things that gets more appreciation as time goes by, maybe after we’re both dead.


According to the director of Twin Peaks, David Lynch, a major theme of the work is incest and the feelings of the victim. Can you explain how the video is of significance to the song or how the two are related?

Chris: To me the series was about breaking down the barrier between two worlds – it’s an occult parable, if you will. Twin Peaks says that love makes you vulnerable, and that evil has easy access to you when you’re in that state. There’s also a lot about animal desires and wearing masks. We thought that fit in with our song, but we were probably wrong.


In the wake of the negativity, a number of comments showing the reaction to the bashing of your hard work started to pop up online. In particular, it said somewhere that you “thought you had overestimated your talent”. Now that things have settled down a bit, do you still feel this way?

Chris: That statement was made about my film-making. I've been a writer for 25 years and usually receive high praise. My film work has received almost no praise, so I don’t think I'm meant to be a director. I was ready to quit, and the response to this video sealed the deal.  I've no idea whether I'm any good at music, but we’ll see when the album’s finished.

Molly: If people can’t respond to a song they don’t like appropriately, I'm not surprised hate crimes are so ubiquitous. On the other hand, I don’t claim they’re wrong about our song or music video but if they knew I was standing behind them, listening to their conversation they wouldn't talk like that. I know this because I was on the set of a massively unpopular rock band’s music video as an extra and people whispered stuff among themselves but as soon as the band was seen they shut the hell up. Because it’s not polite to talk rubbish within hearing of the subject, right? So why write stuff that you know the subject is going to read. That’s nasty. That makes you a nasty pasty!


"I was on the set of a massively unpopular rock band’s music video as an extra and people whispered stuff among themselves but as soon as the band was seen they shut the hell up."

- Molly 



Can you explain how you feel about your first release after the release date?

Chris: I regret making a music video for the fans of Twin Peaks, because they hated it. I don’t regret releasing the song when we did. Some people like the song. Music will always find its audience, eventually, even if that audience is small. One of the bands I love the most, Lowlife, were never famous, but they have a small following. That would suit me, a following, however small. We may end up with 20 fans or a few more and it really doesn't matter.

Molly: I stand by the music video and the song. I wish more people enjoyed it because that is gratifying but I'm not dependent on other people’s approval for my self-worth. I had fun making it and I still consider our release affectionately.


When creating and releasing your music and videos in the future, will you do anything differently?

Chris: I’ll never direct again and I'm so bored of music videos (having made a bundle) that I don’t really care what they look like any more. In the future, I’ll never read a review of our music, either, or a single Facebook comment, because I don’t think you can learn from reviews. Criticism hurts and praise is misleading. Haters hate as a hobby, and fans often remain quiet. So I’ll never know whether anybody likes what we’re doing unless it sells well.

Molly: Chris warned me that it could get lambasted and I was like, I'm not reading any comments or any reviews and I don’t want you to tell me any that you read. In fact, you shouldn't read them because then you’ll tell me anyway. So he read them and told me them, anyway. Next time I'm going to turn off our internet service. I also wouldn't release it through a fan site for something else.


For more information on Lonely Soup Day, check them out using the links below. 

(And yes, the controversial music video can be found via YouTube! I’d like to hear your thoughts if anyone has any!)


















  

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